Author Topic: Red-Neck Rigging  (Read 6829 times)

Uglydog

Red-Neck Rigging
« on: November 21, 2018, 12:29:27 PM »
Moving the Boye & Emmes to the new shop, sometimes endearingly referred to in my shop as Big Red. Yes, there are certainly larger machines.
I've guessed her at #8,500 based on the literature.
As we I was loading out, a friend who occasionally borrows my car hauler to relocate earth moving machines stopped by during his lunch break.
Based on how the trailer was settling on the springs and tires and the known weight of his machines he guesses her at closer to #10,000.
Trailer is licensed at 12,000. We've build up the frame, upgraded the tires, hitch, etc. I wasn't concerned that the trailer would handle her. The truck is rated at #15,000. My concern is how I was gonna get her on, and ultimately off without injuring me/others and/or the machine..... This has been a worry all summer.
What we knew for sure is that she swings 18"over the compound and 20"over the bed. Is 11'long, and 60"between centers.

We started by doubling the length of the ramps by making a beefy hinge. This changed the angle of incline from 22degrees to 11degrees. I made sure I had my moving bars and my 7.5ton skates. I counted my come-alongs. One 3ton and 3each 1.5ton (two of which were cable and one chain-I prefer the chain). Inspected my horizontal chain, 2"ratchet straps and chain binders.

Took 6hours to get her loaded and 7hours to get her off, that doesn't include drive time. We took our time and moved her 1/2" at a time.

Putting 3ton jack stands to add support and stabilize the trailer was critical. Also, needed to extend the jack so that as she loaded the truck springs didn't compress. Huge oversight when loading: I thought the feet we added to the ramps would be big enough. However, the pressed into the classV despite the frozen ground. The use of a safety winch was critical especially when unloading when she starts to slide she built momentum quickly and added alot of tension to the safety cable come-along. Once we got both ends of her on the ramps a nudge with the bars would move her very easily. Sure glad I had the 3ton for the ride up!!

While I've learned alot by moving stuff over the past many years, I'm not a rigger. I don't pretend this is best practice.
Let's call it Red-Neck Rigging.

Daryl
MN
« Last Edit: November 21, 2018, 12:32:39 PM by Uglydog »

Uglydog

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2018, 12:42:23 PM »
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Uglydog

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2018, 12:43:15 PM »
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PJB

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2018, 01:27:44 PM »
Wow.   That a big lathe to move for sure.   Looks like it made it so good deal!   Don’t know why but I somewhat enjoy handicapped rigging adventures.   Adrenaline rush for all us non- athletic types 
1991 Bridgeport Series I 2J-VS  9"x48"
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woodchucker

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2018, 01:45:22 PM »
That is a big boy, glad you got Big Red in it's new home without a problem.
Jeff
Clausing 8520   SB Model 9a - power hacksaw, Milwaukee band saw in a table.  Delta Rockwell Surface Grinder
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4GSR

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2018, 03:42:55 PM »
Daryl,

That's how we used to load and unload big machines back in the day.  We usually didn't have ramps on the trailer if we used a U haul trailer.  We would jack up the one end of the skid enough to back the trailer under the edges of the skid.  Then tied on it with a come a long and started pulling.  We always skidded our lathes with 2 x 10's or 2 x 12's, or thicker to make it easier to roll in or out on pipe rollers.  Seem like when we moved machines, it was in the middle of the summer. :o Hotter than blue blazes.

Glad it all worked out for you.   

Ken

woodchucker

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2018, 04:21:19 PM »
isn't Houston always hotter than blue blazes? Everytime I was there it was Hot and Humid.
Jeff
Clausing 8520   SB Model 9a - power hacksaw, Milwaukee band saw in a table.  Delta Rockwell Surface Grinder
For pics: https://imgur.com/user/woodchucker/posts

Remember measure once cut twice, or was the measure twice cut once...

Ulma Doctor

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2018, 04:25:41 PM »
Wow Daryl, that's a sweet lathe!
congratulations 👍
8 Lathes, 5 Milling Machines, 6 Welders, 2 Surface Grinders, Shop Smith & woodworking stuff too !!!

MIKE WALTON

4GSR

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2018, 06:09:42 PM »
isn't Houston always hotter than blue blazes? Everytime I was there it was Hot and Humid.
Actually up in Conroe, deep in the pine trees, where it is much more humid than in Houston.
Ken

chips and more

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2018, 06:38:16 PM »
What a nice lathe and happy turkey!

f350ca

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 09:26:52 PM »
Nice lathe and rigging.
When I brought mine home it was on a high boy trailer. Excavated the drive in front of the shop and drove the trailer into the hole to bring the back even with the floor.
Some time the redneck way is best.

Greg

woodchucker

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 09:42:17 PM »
Nice lathe and rigging.
When I brought mine home it was on a high boy trailer. Excavated the drive in front of the shop and drove the trailer into the hole to bring the back even with the floor.
Some time the redneck way is best.

Greg


Geez Greg, I think you have the Redneck way... way to out redneck the redneck...  ;)
Jeff
Clausing 8520   SB Model 9a - power hacksaw, Milwaukee band saw in a table.  Delta Rockwell Surface Grinder
For pics: https://imgur.com/user/woodchucker/posts

Remember measure once cut twice, or was the measure twice cut once...

f350ca

Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 10:22:34 PM »
Couldn't find anyway to lift it and and get it in the door, sometimes you got to do what you got to do.

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Re: Red-Neck Rigging
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2018, 08:17:05 AM »
Nice work, Daryl. When you first broke the news that you would be moving my first thoughts were turned to moving that lathe. You've got a few other heavy items there that can present some challenges too, but I figured that Big Red would be the most difficult. Congratulations on getting it moved from A to B without damage or injury!

Have a happy Thanksgiving Day!
Terry

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