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Title: Metal Suppliers
Post by: Terrywerm on October 01, 2019, 11:50:03 AM
If you found a metal supplier that works well for you, please post it in this thread. Be sure to include web address or other contact information.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: Terrywerm on October 01, 2019, 11:58:42 AM
Hobby Metal Kits. This is a small company in Wisconsin that specializes in "kits" of metals and some plastics that hobbyists often use in small quantities. For example, they have a brass hex stock kit comprised of a range of sizes of 360 brass hex stock from 3/32" to 1/2" in 12" lengths. They also offer custom cuts as well as kits in aluminum, 303 stainless, delrin, and CRS.


http://www.hobbymetalkits.com (http://www.hobbymetalkits.com)



Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: 4GSR on October 01, 2019, 12:50:49 PM
I buy bits and pieces off of eBay when I see a bargain. 

Used to buy from Speedy Metals but they have gotten expensive!

For cast iron, I have a close friend that is in the continuous cast iron business.  I can get just about anything I want for a attractive price.  If anyone needs anything in a round bar size, let me know.  If I don't have it setting here, I'll get it for you.  This service is strictly for those just needing a little bit for a project. 

Ken
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: jpigg55 on October 01, 2019, 03:02:08 PM
The only place Iíve ordered from is Online Metals, but have a few more I keep in my ďFavoritesĒ.
1.   Online Metals Ė https://www.onlinemetals.com/  (https://www.onlinemetals.com/)
2.   Discount Steel - https://www.discountsteel.com/index.cfm/go/main.home.htm (https://www.discountsteel.com/index.cfm/go/main.home.htm)
3.   Electron Tube Store - http://electrontubestore.com/ (http://electrontubestore.com/)
4.   Hobby Metal Kits - https://hobbymetalkits.com/ (https://hobbymetalkits.com/)
5.   Speedy Metals - http://www.speedymetals.com/ (http://www.speedymetals.com/)  (carries Cast Iron)
6.   Stock Car Steel - https://stockcarsteel.com/ (https://stockcarsteel.com/)
7.   Graphite Store - http://www.graphitestore.com/ (http://www.graphitestore.com/)  (Graphite & Carbon Fiber)
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: chips and more on October 01, 2019, 08:17:25 PM
I also hunt for bargins/drops on fleabay. But that just changed as of today, s**t. Iím now paying sales tax even on out of state sales!

Was also doing well from online metals. But the shipping costs have gone crazy!

I need to find a local supplier that will sell in small quantities. Have not had any luck yet?
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: jpigg55 on October 01, 2019, 09:55:53 PM
I hear you on the shipping costs.
It was almost understandable when fuel prices were sky high. Fuel prices went down, but shipping costs continued to skyrocket.
Total BS to for them to pad their profit by charging exorbitant shipping prices.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: savarin on October 02, 2019, 08:38:28 AM
I see no point in purchasing anything from the states now.The shipping is usually well over what the product cost, sometimes twice as much.Just aint worth it anymore
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: chips and more on October 02, 2019, 08:45:19 AM
Not too long ago a typical order from Online Metals was like $100 for the metal and about 20 bucks for shipping. Now, for the same order, shipping is $130! I ainít doing it! It was nice to have the metal delivered to my front door, really nice. Didnít need to hassle anything. Just showed up in a couple of days. Well worth the 20 bucks! There goes the honey moon!
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: jpigg55 on October 02, 2019, 09:10:42 AM
All this discussion got me thinking I should take a trip to my local scrapyard.
I heard a few days ago scrap iron is only bringing $80/ton, but that always seems to change when the cooler weather hits and it starts going up.
Only thing usually available is unknownium mild steel, but hard to beat the price. Been quite a few years, but the last time I bought some steel from there I got a 4x6 sheet of 1/4" diamond plate, about 24' of 10" channel iron, and a 6' piece of 1 1/2 " stainless steel round stock for around $150.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: 4GSR on October 02, 2019, 10:17:41 AM
The scrap yards near to me closed their doors to us for going in and buying odds and ends because of insurance rules and safety.  It's been many years since I've taken anything to the scrapper, I let my brother in law take the scrap I accumulate here, just not worth it to me.  The last time I went, someone dropped off a fairly new Reliance electric motor that was the size of my Toyota truck! 5,000 HP maybe?  I don't know.  I bet it weighed 20K lbs.!
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: chips and more on October 02, 2019, 10:50:31 AM
I donít like either one. Itís a tough call for me, but I think I would pay the crazy shipping cost over buying mystery metal at the scrap yard. Iím going to try harder and find a local supplier. There has got to be someone, Iím just not looking in the right place. And I totally get it that we metal munchers are a dying breed. So it stands to reason that the supply of our metal is harder to get.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: ddickey on October 02, 2019, 12:04:26 PM
I heard two days ago $10 ton.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: Terrywerm on October 04, 2019, 01:25:01 AM

Another supplier that I use is Metal Supermarkets,    http://www.metalsupermarkets.com (http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/)


They have over 80 locations in Canada, the USA, and Great Britain.


They have a location just 5 miles from my employer, so I place my order and put it on will call. Metals are expensive anymore, no matter what you do, but at least I can cut the shipping from the cost for the materials I purchase, and I don't have to drive up to north Minneapolis either.


Occasionally I will order metals through McMaster-Carr, (www.mcmaster.com) (http://www.mcmaster.com) but only for small quantities, single pieces, etc.   They provide quick service and good materials, so I usually cannot go wrong ordering through them for some items.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: pep on October 04, 2019, 08:46:40 AM
I use them myself, I was buying from a local company GEM City. Got in a jam forced to go the HD route one day. That really was a blessing cause I discovered that NOT such a GEM City was hosing me.

 Told them I could get the same metal prices from HD. Made sure I stopped in to bid them farewell.

In person at the counter, to their face. Summed it up with, I guess you GEN City, know the end of this story. Normal conversation, with a you will not see this face again smile. And No I did not say have a nice day, or let the door hit me in the ass LOL

I am not one to complain about prices,  service and availability is what I am paying for. However I find I am being misled, this cash paying customer, becomes was a customer.


Pep


Another supplier that I use is Metal Supermarkets,    http://www.metalsupermarkets.com (http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/)


They have over 80 locations in Canada, the USA, and Great Britain.


They have a location just 5 miles from my employer, so I place my order and put it on will call. Metals are expensive anymore, no matter what you do, but at least I can cut the shipping from the cost for the materials I purchase, and I don't have to drive up to north Minneapolis either.


Occasionally I will order metals through McMaster-Carr, (www.mcmaster.com) (http://www.mcmaster.com) but only for small quantities, single pieces, etc.   They provide quick service and good materials, so I usually cannot go wrong ordering through them for some items.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: chips and more on October 04, 2019, 09:08:23 AM
Terry, thanks for the lead. But unfortunately, when I click on their locations the closest place is about 400 miles from me. Iím in an area where there is still machine shops in business. They can buy metal but I canít? The suppliers that I have contacted will not do small orders :(ÖDave
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: Terrywerm on October 04, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
Yup, that sucks to be in a "dead zone".  I used to have to go up to north Minneapolis all the time to get steel and other metals. Had to take a day off work just to go up there because all of the metal merchants and scrap yards were only open Monday through Friday.  For a little while there was a welding shop open near my work where I could get steel in limited sizes, but they eventually moved elsewhere. Then about ten years ago a fabricating shop opened just a mile from my house and they were happy to sell me just about any steel I needed. As time went on they got bigger and bigger, and now they don't want to bother with selling materials to a little guy like me. Sad.

So as time goes on, my metal purchasing habits have changed and evolved. No matter how I do it the stuff is getting damned expensive!
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: chips and more on October 04, 2019, 03:59:06 PM
Sorry, not on topic. But you just mentioned ďdamn expensiveĒ! Last night I ordered from Amazon a 1 gal container Ridgid dark thread cutting oil for about 22 bucks delivered to my front door. And it got here this morning!!! Thatís in less than 24hrs! Damn good deal if you ask me. Now, if I can just find metal deals like that!
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: PJB on October 04, 2019, 05:06:38 PM
Man I feel sorry for you guys and empathize with the problem finding metal.   Location really is the main factor.   Something I am keeping front of mind when choosing where to retire.   Its 5-10 yrs off but starting to come in focus.   Again not rubbing it in rather point of fact, Here in N. IL /Chicago area there are umpteen options.   
I can shoot over to McMaster will call within 15 min.   Although I donít buy much from them MSC and Grainger are down the block.
Alro, Jorgensen, Ryerson all local.   
Obviously grasping for positive straws to jusify living in this state!
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: woodchucker on October 04, 2019, 08:05:15 PM
Nothing here by me. Years ago, there was a great machine/industrial supplier near me. They went out of business. The bearing company went out of business. Most everyone closed. An hour away is a grainger (too expensive).


McMaster online is my best, fastest option.  Ebay for my needs mostly... for drops.
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: pep on October 04, 2019, 08:23:45 PM
Metal Supermarkets, not sure all do this, but the last pickup from them learned they  sell drops. Sure will be looking into that more.
Pep
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: woodchucker on October 04, 2019, 09:53:29 PM
Metal Supermarkets, not sure all do this, but the last pickup from them learned they  sell drops. Sure will be looking into that more.
Pep
3
yea, but very expensive. Ebay 20 at Metal Supermarkets 34 for example. that's a steep increase for 1 piece
but you did open my eyes to the fact that they are about 45 minutes away. So usable in a pinch. 
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: chips and more on December 30, 2019, 03:02:21 PM
I just noticed Hobby Metal Kits had a fire on XMAS. There site says: due to fire operations are suspended. I hope itís not for good :'(
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: JPar on January 05, 2020, 12:21:52 PM
I just noticed Hobby Metal Kits had a fire on XMAS. There site says: due to fire operations are suspended. I hope itís not for good :'(

I saw that too.  The notice on their web site doesn't state the extent of the damage.  I hope that they'll be able to recover and be back in business soon.  I've had good service from them in the past and always appreciated their reasonable shipping charges. 

I've decided to give Speedy Metals a try for my latest order.  The stuff I needed was 20% off, so that's a good start.

John
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: 4GSR on January 05, 2020, 03:07:34 PM
Bought a lot of steel from Speedy Metals in the past.  Until the Tariff hit, their pricing was not too bad.  It's like the day the Tariff was announced, they automatically raised all of their prices up by 30%.  The real truth in the end, the Tariff only caused about a 15% increase in price of steel from the far east.  And I doubt, that there was that much steel coming from Asia to Speedy Metals to cause them to react to a knee jerk decision.  And it shouldn't have affected anything they had in stock at the time.  Anyways, much for the rant.  Ken
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: PJB on January 05, 2020, 06:40:35 PM
I noticed Xometry started offering steel and SS.   Might want to check their prices vs Speedy et al.
I ordered aluminum and they were  very reasonably priced.   I think they recently added a $50 min for  free shipping.  My first order was like $35 worth of metal and zero shipping.   Too good to be true so Iím not surprised they adjusted.   
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: JPar on February 01, 2020, 10:50:02 PM
Does anyone know if Hobby Metal Kits is up and running again, after the fire they had last month?  I just looked at their web site, and the notice about the fire is gone.  But nothing says "We're back in business again".  If no one knows, I can give them a call on Monday before I submit an order.
John
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: kvt85 on February 02, 2020, 04:14:28 PM
Around here they have come down  on scrap metal places to the point as it is dropped off it is put in crushers for packing into trucks etc and gone when full.   
Do have a couple of New metal suppliers but they want even more than ordering on line and paying the shipping.   
they did put in a Metal Supermarket but they charge full price even for drops.   (found out when I started buying some one day.)
They have a grangers here, but no Mcmaster.   
So I do most of mine from Ebay.   

Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: JPar on February 05, 2020, 10:15:36 AM
I received a reply from Hobby Metal Kits.  They are up and running, and receiving orders.  For the next few months, they will be working with borrowed equipment and limited inventory.  Prompt shipping is still a priority, but some orders may be delayed slightly.  They stated they are working hard to expedite every order.
I just submitted an order for aluminum and brass.  I'll post again when I receive it.
John
Title: Re: Metal Suppliers
Post by: JPar on February 13, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
I just submitted an order for aluminum and brass.  I'll post again when I receive it.
John

I received my order today. It took 8 days from the time I placed the order. Not as fast as they were in the pre-fire days, but understandable given they're working in recovery mode. 
John