Author Topic: Winter changes  (Read 369 times)

pep

Winter changes
« on: February 16, 2019, 08:32:43 AM »
Making and installing two upgrades, hoping to wrap up the latest this weekend.

Recently discovering there is a rotary vane vacuum pump, and a common production part. I had to have it, biggest reason quieter than the piston one now used.

One can buy a plug & play version, for around 500 .... Thinking this is a common part and also reading the vendors web page.  That states if the pump fails, remove and return for repair. That also says between the lines, min of a few weeks to have it returned.

So 3 good reasons to build my own and go find  parts. Sourcing the pump, lucky me my wife's CTS sports the pump. Get a part number, order the pump from GM, 150 beans ..... NICE :-) !

Off and running pictures show the rest of the story.

Bottom line sum-times, new and improve has a real value and meaning, this one is all that.

Pep

woodchucker

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 10:05:27 AM »
but what kind of pump? is it a fuel pump? does it have a regulator?
Jeff
Clausing 8520   SB Model 9a - power hacksaw, Milwaukee band saw in a table.  Delta Rockwell Surface Grinder (not online yet .. being rebuilt where am I going to stick this)
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kvt85

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2019, 03:21:08 PM »
Think that it is a vacuum pump, but for what.   Horns or something.
Ken in SA TX

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pep

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2019, 08:50:20 PM »
Here is a link;  Amozon, also gives the GM part number

https://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-20939309-Original-Equipment-Assembly/dp/B00B4LERJ4/ref=sr_1_6/146-0846985-9776345?ie=UTF8&qid=1550371359&sr=8-6&keywords=GM+Vacuum+Pump

No regulator needed, will require a check valve & pressure cut off switch.

New cars have em for the power brakes, been this way for a while near as I can tell.
The electric pump keeps the brake system up, if the motor craps out. stalls.
Booster only holds enough vac for 1 full application and 1  almost, then driver is just along for the ride.

Pep


« Last Edit: February 16, 2019, 09:05:52 PM by pep »

pep

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 07:15:21 AM »
Project 2, finished upgrading electric window regulators. New glass cut installed, the glass removed was to small, and not tracking.

New felt channels and a door whisker, installed. Fortunately I had left overs from the truck build. Discovered an old bill in the storage tube, forgot how much it cost, how about 150 for 4 sticks 6ft long ....

Speaking of that, 3M makes a weather strip black glue. I recently graduated to proficient user of same. The trick is to use a thin coat,  many me included ran a bead and installed. The point? this car I have owned as of 99. Removing the felt, the weather strip glue,  Holding the sheet metal channel and felt backing was still gooey, not cured, pretty funny.

Inner door panel is not my work, I did do a mod for the mounting bracket.
Also seen, the channeling of the body, drops it 4 in. The purpose it to hide the frame rail.  Most open wheeled cars have the body sitting on top of the frame. Frame is seen, looks like crap, prefer the channeling, a much cleaner look

Pep

« Last Edit: February 21, 2019, 07:18:30 AM by pep »

34_40

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2019, 06:22:40 AM »
I need to get some of those same things done to the coupe. I want to install electric regulators too, can I ask whose regulators did you use?
I've got the cat whisker sitting still sitting in the shipping tube.. been there 3 or 4 years..  8-(     And I want to replace the lexan with auto glass
for the doors.  Really just need a huge dose of ambition!

The channeling of the body (for me) is really a personal preference.  On some cars it seems to fit, others just don't wear it well.  I actually prefer a highboy!
Just looks "more real" is the only way I can describe it right now.  But I can appreciate the effect it has.
Clausing 108, Clausing 8520, Atlas Horizontal, Lincoln stick and mig welders

pep

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 06:57:32 AM »
I need to get some of those same things done to the coupe. I want to install electric regulators too, can I ask whose regulators did you use?
I've got the cat whisker sitting still sitting in the shipping tube.. been there 3 or 4 years..  8-(     And I want to replace the lexan with auto glass
for the doors.  Really just need a huge dose of ambition!

The channeling of the body (for me) is really a personal preference.  On some cars it seems to fit, others just don't wear it well.  I actually prefer a highboy!
Just looks "more real" is the only way I can describe it right now.  But I can appreciate the effect it has.

Tell me some about that real HotRod, year, doors, glass or steel ?

The truck I built, cab sits on the top of the frame. Frame is Zed, and gets it low. Side pipes hide the rails, had I not done it that way. With the set back of the motor, hight of the trans eating up 4in more of the floor. Only a chipmunk would had been able to drive the thing. People really have no idea how limited  these HotRods are cockpit wise, mm's make a differences.

Cheers,
Pep

34_40

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 07:25:47 PM »
Let's see if I can share a pic of the coupe...  Old Gibbons 33 glass.  I have basic manual regulators but am not happy with the operation.  So I'm considering going electric.  And you're right with the lack of size... I can sit behind the wheel and stick both hands out each side window, EASILY!
Clausing 108, Clausing 8520, Atlas Horizontal, Lincoln stick and mig welders

pep

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 11:49:46 PM »
Ok here is what I got, the regulators I removed work, both of them. The main problem with them was all about the felt and shitty install. They are 22 inches  tall, that is ruffly 2.5in cut off from a new part. Do you think they will be tall enough to mount in your doors ?

Not knowing what the inner door panel looks like for the body type you have, is why I ask.  However if you want them I'll ship, you pay the freight .

The install is pretty common spec wise, centered in the door and the glass channel level L & R.  Wiring harness and switches you will need.

Pep





34_40

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 06:12:40 PM »
They are 22 inches  tall, that is ruffly 2.5in cut off from a new part. Do you think they will be tall enough to mount in your doors ?
Not knowing what the inner door panel looks like for the body type you have, is why I ask.  However if you want them I'll ship, you pay the freight .
The install is pretty common spec wise, centered in the door and the glass channel level L & R.  Wiring harness and switches you will need.
Pep

Wow, that's quite the offer! And I see our doors are very similar with the interior removed.  Mine has a 2 5/8" chop - again quite similar and the door thickness should be similar as well so I'll say YES! I'd love to have them. Please work up a package / price and let me know how you'd like to get paid. 

Again. Thank You!
Clausing 108, Clausing 8520, Atlas Horizontal, Lincoln stick and mig welders

pep

Re: Winter changes
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2019, 07:27:39 PM »
  NP

Ok I'll get a box together and weight it out this weekend. I'd much rather they go to someone than the trash....

Pep