Author Topic: My new shop  (Read 4239 times)

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2019, 10:58:13 PM »
One more
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

4GSR

Re: My new shop
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2019, 06:45:15 AM »
Shawn,

What is that plastic placed between the top plates and bottom plates?  Off hand never seen that done down here.  Used to run a fiberglass pad on the concrete for the bottom plate to set on down here.  Just curious.
Ken
Ken

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2019, 08:56:38 AM »
Tyvec house wrap. You wrap the house with it after framing, before siding. It blocks moisture out but still allows the framing to breathe. So, if moisture gets under it, it can still evaporate but doesn't allow moisture to pass through it from the outside. It's direction specific - "install this side facing out", sort of thing.

I'm going a little.overboard with it because there's a lot of moisture around here. I don't want any rotted wood, since I have wood in places we sometimes won't want wood products. Like, low to the ground. But, budget budget...

So, after I sheet the exterior walls, I will roll out the wrap across the sheeting then lap and tape the edges that are wrapped up and under the plates. Enveloping the lumber from moisture on the outside.
Then on the inside, I do the same but with 6 mil poly vapor barrier. Creating my vapor block on the warm side.

It's a big sandwich.
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2019, 09:00:54 AM »
Oh, also, we use a roll of 3/16" thick foam under the bottom plate to give a moisture seperation between any lumber and concrete surface so the lumber doesn't leech moisture from the concrete - which will be moist forever. Additionally, it adds a cushion between the course concrete surface and the tyvec, so the paper thin tyvec doesn't tear.
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

4GSR

Re: My new shop
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2019, 10:32:21 AM »
I know about the Tyvec house wrap.  We use it down here too and also the foam under your bottom plates on the outside walls.  Just wasn't familiar with putting the Tyvec under the plate.  Hey thanks for sharing, learn something today. Yeah!
Ken

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2019, 03:08:11 PM »
Had to take a break from my shop to build Jonathan's wall. Our deal was I'd build his wall if he paid for mine... His wall was just as wrought with problems as mine was...  ::)

Had to spend 3 hours fixing that far right corner, taking down the big rolling doors, pouring a small underpin and a small footing on the corner of the far right pad. I told him he needs to replace the two side exterior walls. Pour a bit of a foundation wall because of grading issues. He gets mud washing in on the left side.
Also, from back to front, the post walls have heaved up nearly 10 inches. And from pulling the corner post out I found out that the posts aren't in the ground deep enough. The corner post was only 14" down. That's pathetic... So, he's got some tough decisions to make. And find another $1500 somewhere for materials. Aaand, since this is up and beyond our deals for my free labour, and due to how late in the season it's getting, and how little time I have, I may have to take some days off work to do it, so he'd have to pay me. But that decision 100% effects the next few steps in building this wall. If the front drops 10", then it very much changes how things get tied in... Sucks to have a great building but wind up having to basically rebuild 3/4 of if. Oh well...

Anyways, 40" of frontage. 36" man door, 16' garage door. Got this far today. Stopped due to time and ran out of materials.
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2019, 04:23:32 PM »
Well... He said go ahead with the rebuild. So off I went... Been a busy week...

Built temporary walls to support the roof, blew out the side walls. Leveled the roof on the temporary walls. The frontage dropped 14"! The side roof lines look soo much better...
I smashed out section of floor because it had sunk pretty bad. Built forms to pour walls. Cement truck came yesterday. Marc sent the whole Calvary to come help me, which was spectacular because there was no conceivable way I could have done it all myself. I had been busy this week and didn't actually finish all the forming on time. So the guys really helped out. Scotty worked with the cement truck on 3 different pours while myself and the young guy fixed up the last of the areas to be poured.
This morning I got there bright and early (5am) to pull the forms and start framing. I'm having a difficult time working around the wife's study schedule. So, definitely been odd hours. Working from 10pm to 2am, then this morning. But, a massive transformation.

This evening, to give herself a study break, we went over there. She hung out with Jonathan's wife, Heather, Ashlee's coworker and university friend. And I got a chance to keep working for a bit. I have almost all of the side walls sheeted now, didn't snap a picture.

I will finish sheeting the walls, finish the front wall, wrap the whole thing with tyvec, and o think that's where I'll stop on his part. He's paying me labour for the two days I took off work this week, but nothing else. Our deal of 'i build his wall and he pays for mine' got a bit extended. So, I need to pick a stopping point. If he wants more, he will have to pay some how. Either in materials for my shop, or money.

Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2019, 04:29:20 PM »
Oh... And I got a fresh, beautiful, new floor from the deal too  ;D ;D  ;D

Sooooooo much better than what I was expecting to have to do to fill in the hole.
I also have my frontage nice and wrapped up. I also have a garage door to install. Which I will do once I'm done Jonathan's. Then I will finally be all closed in. I'll get the furnace hooked up so I can be warm when I work.
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2019, 05:24:33 PM »
Got Jonathan to send me some photos of my last point today.
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

34_40

Re: My new shop
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2019, 05:32:49 PM »
Looking good Shawn. Should be a nice shop with all the effort you're putting in.
Clausing 108, Clausing 8520, Atlas Horizontal, Lincoln stick and mig welders

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2019, 05:42:40 PM »
Jeez, I certainly hope so! Lol

The new floor in my shop is a huuuuuuuuuuuge deal. I was prepping to do a wooden deck as a temporary solution. Then I was considering tiling that wooden deck as I was hoping to put my welding area back there. Already had a deal worked out with my tile supplier. She was going to donate the tile if I buy the mud. Which is a pretty phenomenal deal, actually... That discussion started with me sending an email requesting a price on her cheapest worst tile (for my shop floor), to which she offered the donation. (they're really great people there. That's why theyre our only flooring supplier.)
This the concrete is a huge step up. And a lot less work.
I also have a bunch of 2x6 studs left over from Jonathan's walls to rebuild that terrible back wall in the photo. That wall divides my shop and the garage you can see just to the left of the left new wall on Jonathan's side. That wall is being held up by drywall, basically. It was floating when I demoed it.

Edit: I realise now I don't have a photo of that side of the barn to actually show which garage door I'm actually referring to... Oh well... Use your imagination.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2019, 05:48:42 PM by Carpenter84 »
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2019, 05:51:24 PM »
In my searching for a photo, I found an earlier photo. A before and after, if you will... Wild...
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

34_40

Re: My new shop
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2019, 05:19:47 AM »
That IS a wild comparison isn't it!?!?!   
Clausing 108, Clausing 8520, Atlas Horizontal, Lincoln stick and mig welders

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2019, 04:15:45 PM »
Some good progress on the shop. Garage door installed. Resurrected an old garage door opener, installed it. No code keypad, or wireless fob, but the button works fine. All I need.
Also blew in insulation in the attic last week. Messy job... Insulated, vapor barriered, and boarded around the garage door before installing it. Also got it all capped and weather stripped today. So, all closed in now. No whistling wind. Got the furnace setup, just sitting on the floor blowing into the air and exhausted outside, no ductwork, but warms up the space right quick.
Still a mess in there tho.
Next few steps will be some more framing. Frame the ceiling in the back, frame a wall in front of the concrete wall, strap the upper ceiling. Run some more electrical. Insulate, vapor barrier, then board.
Only issue is Jonathan's not paying for anything anymore since I'm done his side. I have some more copper salvaging left I can do for a few more hundred, then it'll get real slow till after the holidays probably. I'll be paying for everything myself at that point and she won't let me be spending money like crazy.

But, I'm happy. I got where I wanted to be before it got really cold and snowy. Which it will do. I'm told the snow drifts pile up pretty high along this side of the barn.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2019, 04:24:35 PM by Carpenter84 »
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.

Carpenter84

Re: My new shop
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2019, 05:43:49 PM »
Well... This should hopefully fund the shop for a little while...
5 buckets of copper, and a bunch of aluminum. I'm hoping for about $800.

This was ONE old, gigantic power supply.. 1000 amps, to be exact. Yes, one thousand amps. The transformers had 6 awg copper windings as well as 6" copper sheet windings.

The aluminum is from a super old Miller robot welder. I was hoping for a similar payout in copper, but was super disappointed to find out they were aluminum transformers. Huge cost savings to Miller... Super rip off for me. The copper should be about $2.65-$2.85/pound, the aluminum about .33 cents...

There are still 3 coils left in the big power supply I didn't have time for today. Probably another $300. And I still have a small power supply to gut. And if I feel like going on a treck, which I'm sure I will, there are 2 600v welders in the back of a tractor trailer wayyyy in the back 40... Jonathans given me his blessings to gather whatever I want off the property to use.

This recycling run, I'm hoping, will insulate my walls, and board them, and turn all the lights on.
Gutting these things is a ton of work tho... Took all afternoon. But worth it, obviously...
Shawn

First 9x42 column mill,
Enterprise 10x28 lathe,
Ko Lee 6x12 surface grinder,
Airco dip/stick 160 welder,
Fully stocked wood shop.